#2160 - Billy Carson (2024)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Showing my day, Joe Rogan podcasted my night all day.

Yeah, so the thing is about that photo of the moon that they do with the phones.

They found out that that's kind of bullsh*t.

No, let me show you some mind about it.

I know, I've took it too, but what it is is it's AI. And so what someone did on it?

What did this is AI?

Yeah, what someone did online, one of them clever kids.

Yeah.

They took a very blurry photo of the moon and they put it on a screen across the room.

Okay.

And then they zoomed in on it as if it's the moon and the camera showed detailed craters.

Oh, well, that's what I'm talking.

I'm talking about like this, you know.

Oh, okay, so that's a real picture.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that you just used the 100x zoom.

Yeah.

You didn't use the moon from those things.

Yeah, no, this is just a moon shot.

There's a moon shot aspect to that.

That's a little...

I got a check that I didn't know about that one.

Yeah, if you zoom in on it, if you zoom in on the moon.

Yeah.

Okay, I don't think that's real.

See, that's what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

I think that's AI. The AI recreates it?

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

I know.

I was showing off to my family.

Yeah, listen.

I have the 22, I think the S22 Ultra.

Yeah.

I have the older one.

And I would take photos of the moon.

I'm like, look, iPhone's bullsh*t.

I can't do this, but it turned out it looks like I got food.

Oh, man.

Yeah, because you can't hide stuff like that on the internet.

Technology stuff.

Those guys are too good.

They know everything.

But we were just talking about the diversity.

I'm just really thinking about switching to Android.

I'm just tired of being trapped.

Yeah.

And it's just like this resisted.

Everybody's like, don't do that.

I'm like, oh my God, it's like a mind virus.

Like everybody's like culturally locked in having a blue bubble.

When you tell them you're going to switch from Apple, then Agent Smith shows up from the matrix.

It happens to their body.

And they try to tell you to stop doing it.

Don't do it.

Like try to convince you not to leave.

It's like if you were a Catholic and you said, I'm going to become a Baptist.

Right.

People are going, don't do it.

Don't do it.

Like what are you talking about?

Yeah.

It's not that much different.

It's crazy.

It's weird.

People get weird with everything.

They get weird with their beliefs.

They get weird with what they subscribe.

What group they attach themselves to.

So true.

It's so strange.

And I think this is a good way to segue into like what you do.

And because these subjects, so many of these subjects, so many people have like an instantaneous reaction.

Yeah.

That instantaneous reaction is, oh, hogwash.

Yeah.

If this was true, I would already know about it.

It would be taught in universities.

It would all be.

But then you find out like no one is really just kind of trying to piece stuff together, specifically talking about these ancient tablets, which are to me, some of the most interesting things about ancient history, particularly what came out of ancient Sumerr.

Yeah.

Ancient Sumerr, when you look at their tablets and like what are they saying?

And why would they dedicate so much time to talking about this stuff?

Exactly.

Why do they have pictures of giant, enormous people looking things with like a humanoid with a tail sitting on their lap?

Like, what is this just fiction?

Like, why would they detail this?

And how do they have a representation of the solar system with the correct amount of planets and relatively the correct order and size?

You know, it's not exact, but it's an artistic version of the real thing.

And how the hell, how the hell, how the hell, 6 ,000, 5 ,000 years ago, do they know that?

Yeah.

And what explanations do we have?

Like, what's the conventional explanations when people tried to dismiss with the new and ancient Sumerr?

Well, the conventional explanation is always going to the term mythology.

They throw mythology around, you know, left and right to cover up the fact that they have no clue or idea, so they turn it into mythology so they can kind of say it's all fantasy and fairy tales.

And this is how they express themselves or how they understood the universe.

It's all mythology, it's all fake, but in reality, it's not all fake.

These people left behind such detailed records and information.

It's a time capsule of information on stone tablets for us today to be able to decipher, break down and understand, and that's what we're here to do now.

When you look at these ancient languages, like, uniform, can you read that?

Do you know how to read it?

Yeah.

A small amount of it, yeah.

Studying it from books that I had bought right off of Amazon.

Oh. Yeah, so basically you take a, you take a stick.

It looks like a stick with a, with a kind of a curved end, right?

Almost sharp and it's called a stylus.

It looks like a stylus for an iPad.

Exactly, very similar, right?

And then you take a piece of a wet clay.

And right before it's too wet or too dry right in the middle stage, you then start wedging, making these incredible lines into the clay.

And then from that, you get this cuneiform text.

So this text literally, you know, some of them, some of the letters actually relate to complete ideas.

But it's incredible work and it takes a long time to do.

And then you have to let this thing dry and then it becomes stone.

So, you know, if people were supposed to be trying to worry about how they're going to get their next meal, shelter for the night and all these kind of things, who has time to sit down and write these incredible works of art, like the Epic of Gilgamesh, for example?

Yeah.

So I think they really were writing down and also they were transcribing information that was given to them by these quote -unquote gods with the lowercase G. So when you're reading things like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Epic of Gilgamesh for people don't know is one of the oldest versions of a lot of the stories that you hear in the Bible.

Very similar to them.

They seem to be, there always seems to be a great flood.

There's a few heroes.

There's angry gods.

There's a bunch of stuff going on.

And Zachary Sitchens' work was like the most controversial on the Sumerian text, right?

Yeah.

Because there's a whole website called Sitch and hiswrong .com, and people go crazy about him.

But when he starts talking about it, when you read some of the things that they wrote, and when you see some of the images that they created, the images that look like the double helix from DNA, and there's a bunch of that now we represent, the Caduceus, which represents pharmacies and drugs, that's the old version of an image of the double helix of DNA, or at least it looks super similar to that.

I would definitely is because it's referenced, even in the Egyptian book of the Dead and other ancient texts.

So there's no coincidences here.

Now, Zachary Sitchens, you know, I don't particularly go by his work, and not because it's controversial.

I believe he was one of the greatest researchers of all time.

And the reason why is because he laid out so much information for us to begin to scratch or head and ask questions.

But what I figured out was that by going through the UCLA, CDLI, online, unlined, Cuneiform Digital Library, say that fast ten times, I was able to take stone tablets and decipher them myself.

So anyone can go online to the UCLA, CDLI, online, unlined, Cuneiform Digital Library and read these stone tablets for themselves.

You don't need Zachary Sitchens, you don't need anyone else.

And as I begin to break these tablets down.

Do they have them transcribed, or are you reading the actual tablets?

You can, they transcribe them.

They actually transcribe them into English for you.

Is there controversy as far as, like, are there different versions of the transcription, like, to some people thinking it's interpreted differently?

Is like some debate about that?

Only where it comes to where some of the text is missing.

There could be a piece shipped off of tablets.

You see that corner missing from that tablet right there on the epical document?

Just look how wild is that?

Just how wild is that that that exists?

And that this was, it's so hard for people to put in their brain five thousand years of time.

That there's these people that are this very bizarre language.

Like, when you look at that language, we don't even know what it sounds like, right?

Right, no.

And the language popped up out of nowhere.

You know, you're talking about a civilization that appeared out of nothing.

It looks like computer code.

It does.

Doesn't it?

Yes, it does.

I just imagine like a human being deciding that they were going to write down in these very bizarre, and they all agreed that all these things mean a certain thing.

So they had a somehow and other have a rosetta stone or something where they're documenting it so that people can learn it and teach it.

And then we're looking at it five thousand years later.

Yeah.

It's so amazing.

It is.

And what's incredible is this text was translated in 1800s long before Zachary Sitchon was born.

So there are some, you know, some rumors that, oh, he was the only one that could decipher these tablets.

Well, no.

George Smith, who worked as an serialologist, and wrote many books and deciphered these Samaritan tablets in the 1800s.

So we're talking about texts that have been deciphered for a few hundred years.

Nothing that was just deciphered recently.

So when, what are the first decipherings?

Like what year was the first deciphering?

It was in 1800.

I don't have to.

I think we're on 1800 and 50.

George Smith.

He actually worked at the, at the, at the Bible's Cambridge.

What was his take?

Like what did, when he's reading all these wacky stories and all the Anunnaki stuff?

Like what's his take on it?

He is literally subscribing to this information the way Elmas that you and I see it today.

These people saw something, experienced something, interacted with something, and he catalogued it, and it inspired him to write a complete translation of the Inuma Elish and the seven tablets of creation.

And he talks about the fact that that information was copied right from those tablets and put into the Old Testament of the Bible.

And so, you know, not exactly like what's going to go from here to the Bible, but it went to other ancient papyruses and scriptures and so forth.

And then later on, when it was discovered in caves, people took those and then said, okay, we got to put this into a book, and then it became the Bible much later, around 100 AD. But he subscribed to the theory that these people interacted with beings in some way should perform, and that also this information is so incredible that it became part of the, you know, the biblical text.

Did you ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Yes, yeah.

So the Dead Sea Scrolls was found in, what year was that?

It was in Kuhnron, right?

It was Kuhnron, but I think, again, this was also, I believe, in the late 1800s or early 1900s.

This is when they found it.

So these things are written on animal skins, and this is the, I mean, this is a very old version of those exact same stories, or some of similar stories.

Yeah.

There's a lot of weirdness in the Dead Sea Scrolls, like.

Yeah.

I haven't read it, but is there any references to anything that's similar, like, Anonaki -type characters, the Nephilim, or anything like that, in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

They show up everywhere.

And the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Inumi Elish, and the Epochobotrasis.

Of course, even in the Bible, they're known as the Anok, A -N -A -K. We were grasshoppers in their eyesight, it says, in the biblical text.

So no matter where you go in any culture, you're going to discover that these beings in some way or shape of form, engaged mankind, brought knowledge, teaching, building techniques, and just so much more wisdom, and information, esoteric wisdom, alchemy, all these things came from these people.

So the craziest version of this story is that they genetically engineered us out of lower primates, and put us here to mind gold.

Right.

And then established different types of civilizations, and taught us how to build things, taught us all these different things, and enough time has passed that we've kind of forgot.

Enough time has passed.

That's the wackiest version of it.

Right.

That's the bare bones minimum.

Yeah.

The wackiest versions they made us, which is, we've talked about this a couple of times, but how bizarre it is that human beings have this incredible fascination for gold.

We're fascinated with gold.

This fascination with gold is really weird.

Like why back when it was basically useless?

You couldn't make a knife out of it.

You couldn't, you know, like it didn't make sense that this would be so valuable.

Just because it's rare, you're barely alive.

You know, we're going, you know, right?

We're going back to full -on hunter -and -gatherer ancestors with spears and stone -chipped, and then after that, gold emerges.

And it stays.

It stays forever.

Now, when you re -Zucker Isitian's book, he talks about this in the 1970s.

His description of it was that they needed to suspend gold particles in the atmosphere because their atmosphere was being destroyed.

Then you move to like somewhere around the 2000s when climate scientists start proposing this idea of suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere.

And then when you realize the unique properties of gold, how unusual it is in terms of like a building material, you can coat things.

The reason why things are like coated in gold, silver plate, a gold -plated rather, you can take a tiny piece of gold and cover an enormous area with it.

It's a strange metal.

Like really weird.

And what, you know, the supposed story is, it's very common on earth, very rare, on Nebira.

Right.

Yeah, that's the story.

And then when I started looking into this gold thing myself, and here's what I came up with.

So when you start analyzing the text, you discover that there was a camp and then camp in a place called South Africa at Adams Calendar.

Now at Adams Calendar, there's actually the very first gold mines discovered.

They're dating them back to about 200 ,000 years ago.

And that's incredible because there's a building there that looks like a worn -down structure.

Now in the tablets, it talks about the fact that the EGG who were the working class and -or -knocky beings who were cleaning out the Euphrates and Tigris River so they can create irrigation and create a bustling civilization.

Also, what they were doing, the actual construction themselves, no people needed, just them working.

They were like the construction workers and knew and inked and liled these leader gods were like, you know, the four men, the, you know, the art master architects and so forth, right?

The boss.

So these people were working, but they weren't supposed to be enslaved.

They were volunteers.

They got tired of doing the work of corn to them for about 250 ,000 years of a labor on earth and also according to them on Mars.

This is in the text they call it Lamu.

And so they decided to go to war against Anki and Lil' and Anu because their demands had not been met.

So they went to meet them and the epic of Atrahasis.

They go to Adam's calendar.

They go to that same structure that was discovered where that gold mine is located.

I was like, holy crap, there is some link here to gold, specifically exactly, I don't know, but I know if you in advance civilization, you need gold.

And the people that you have working in for you probably think, you know, it's the adorn or to adorn yourself or in recognition of the gods.

So they'll wear it and they'll utilize it, but not for technology.

What was crazy is they go to war, they go to get ready to go to battle.

And then Anki says, I have an idea that will stop this war.

There's an existing being on this planet, existing, not something that doesn't exist, existing.

We can add our essence to it with a slain god.

So they're talking about taking the DNA of genetics from one of themselves and mixing it with the DNA of the hominid that was here.

It's not specified whether it was, you know, an ape man or anything, but they don't specify in the tablets, but to create a worker being and they began to do this genetic modification, probably disconnecting some of our DNA, making genetic modification to us to get us to take orders from them.

They inserted something called a worship gene, which was just discovered recently, that human beings have a gene inside of them that could be turned on and turned off.

It can be turned off in a laboratory setting, it can also be turned off with a magnetic field around your head.

And when it's off, you don't want to worship anything outside of yourself.

You look inside, and when it's on, you look to get something from the outside.

So this is incredible.

So they've had a gene inside of us to make us worship them.

We're all genius.

It's incredible.

Because then you're not a slave anymore.

You're doing this for the honor of the gods.

And for people who think this is all this talk is really crazy.

I want to put in perspective that we talked about this the other day that during the, was it, which was it?

Was it where the Soviet Union was experimenting?

Was it, it was scientists in the Soviet Union, correct?

They're experimenting with creating a chimpanzee human being hybrid that they would probably send to war.

Yeah.

So instead of having regular people, we would make this monster.

Yes.

This freak, you know, eight man and send him to war and have him crush the enemies.

Yeah.

Please forgive me.

It's just how crazy is that?

They knew how strong chips are.

I got an idea.

Let's turn a chimpanzee human in that way.

If he dies, who gives a f*ck?

Right.

We made him.

Get him to go to work for us.

And now if you're a supremely enlightened being, wouldn't you think of human beings with all of our folly and all of our chaos and all of our war and bullsh*t in the internet and disinformation and misinformation?

Wouldn't you think about kind of the same way we would think about that champ hybrid thing?

Yeah.

If I was, you know, I was the president of Russia.

I want my cousins to go to war.

Or we'll just send this freak that I made in a lab.

Yeah.

And what's interesting?

I'm glad you said made in a lab.

They had talked briefly in that text about fashioning people.

In other words, almost like.

How did they say it?

They said the word fashioning.

Fashioning of being.

What was the, do you remember the actual quote?

I got it.

I would have to look it up the actual quote.

But they described it as fashion.

Because they said even the lamb hadn't been fashioned yet.

So they had fashioned lamps.

So they fashioned, and it's also in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

They fashion the friend that Gilgamesh went on the journey with.

He wasn't born from a woman's womb.

They created him.

They created him an artificial being to go on this journey in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

So they used that phrase several times in the tablets.

But they said, no, wait.

It was almost like, that's not a good idea because in some ways it seems as if they had known that the idea of making these artifacts too many artificially created people wouldn't be a good idea.

Now they didn't go deeper than that.

But you can see where we are today with AI and everything else in these robots that are coming.

Maybe they knew something about that.

But they decided to take a biological being and genetically modifying program that to do the work.

And that's exactly what they did.

Well, if they really knew what we would be capable of and that we would be illogical overpopulation and be a gigantic issue.

And in many parts, I mean, it's not really that big of an issue here except for in cities.

But in many parts of the world it's the whole country.

Yeah.

You know, and you got a one, it's actually not true.

It's not even that bad, even in China.

China has a lot of open space.

But when you're in those cities, they are massive.

And they are filled with people.

And that is probably what you'd imagine a higher being would do if it was like us, like kind of illogical.

And kind of a little bit reckless and has a little bit too much technology for the average person that didn't develop the technology.

But also you got some 85 IQ dope who has access to all the things that all these geniuses have created.

Yeah.

I mean, you could, I mean, you could figure, we talked to Michio Kaku.

He built a nuclear reactor in his house.

Right.

He was a kid.

I heard about that.

It was crazy.

That's crazy.

Yeah, I know.

That's so crazy.

But there's a lot of different stuff that you can do and have access to technology that is beyond anything you would ever be able to invent with your own mind.

But because we share things across the board, where you would imagine that if you were an enlightened being from another planet, if it's a million years more advanced, and I said, you go, I see where this one's going.

You know, I can see a black dozen who's an alcoholic and then he wins the lottery like, oh, sh*t, Derek, just won the lottery.

Yeah.

This is going to be crazy.

Derek's got $200 million.

Right.

It's going to be f*cking insane.

It's crazy.

And they knew they were going outside their own guidelines and their own laws or parameters because they made a statement in the text.

They said, the creator of all is going to punish them, or they would have to answer to the creator of all for what they did here.

And that lets you know they weren't really gods.

They knew themselves that they weren't the creator of the universe, but they masqueraded as gods on this planet.

Just like we did when different versions of human civilization would find primitive tribes, like the cargo tribes.

The cargo cult that you talked about in your documentary.

That is so fascinating.

During World War II, planes landed on these remote places.

And these people built mock planes to show what the thing was that came to visit them that they thought were like gods.

Wow.

Do you think that if the Anunnaki are real and if Nibiru really exists and there's another planet with highly intelligence beings that are far more advanced than us?

If that's the case, do you think there's more advanced and more advanced and just like we are to chimpanzees, they are to us, and then another races to them, and then it just keeps going on and on forever until your god.

Absolutely.

I believe there's levels to the game, just like there's levels in terms of how we live on this planet.

You know, we have the First World, Second World, Third World, just here on Earth.

Now, a magnify that as a fractal, as a universe as a whole, you have civilizations that are a million to a million, maybe even a billion years ahead.

And every universe, every civilization progressing within the universe at a specific rate.

So you can have beings that have already, maybe even shed their corporeal bodies, and only exist as beings of energetic light, and then you have everything all the way back down towards us.

In the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, he actually says that he has achieved the ability to incarnate at will on and in the plane he desires.

He claims to be able to incarnate whenever he wants and even into other dimensions, which is wild.

That's next level.

Yeah, that's next level.

It does make sense that if we're capable of doing what we're doing, we were talking about your phone, the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, with zooms and all this different sh*t, that's magic to someone just 200 years ago.

And if we keep, if it keeps going, and you keep like playing this out as far as possible, it kind of makes sense that there would be levels to the kind of intelligent life that exists in the universe beyond our comprehension.

What do you, if you talked to Terrence Howard, do you know his theory about how planets are created that it's just things ejecting from the sun over billions and billions of years and that there's a Goldilocks zone where you can create life.

And that's where the people are.

And then as this Goldilocks zone gets purred, you have to be super technologically proficient in order to control your environment to the extent that you no longer require the sun in order to keep you alive.

That kind of makes sense if the bureaus out there pass Pluto.

Oh, it makes a lot of sense.

It makes sense if they don't.

Because I just talked to them a couple hours ago.

Yeah.

I mean, so we were talking about web conjugations and everything.

f*ck me up for like three days.

I left his podcast for three days.

I was like, damn, first of all, how the f*ck is he so smart?

How would you ever imagine that a dude who's an actor on a television show or in a movie is that smart?

Like freaky smart.

But his theory about the creation of planets I was like, oh, that makes sense.

Oh, it makes a lot of sense.

Watch stuff fly off the sun all the time.

And if that this matter over time would coalesce and become a planet.

Yeah.

Creates an accretion disk and everything in space creates a creation disk.

So once that matter.

What is that word?

Accretion disk?

Yeah.

Accretion disk.

So once you have a certain amount of mass in space, it instantaneously on its own wants to create this circular, like the shape of our Milky Way galaxy, wants to start circling and swirving around itself.

And then as it does that, it creates, begins to create friction.

And then as that friction increases, the matter begins to collapse into each other based on its own energy.

And then it then forms a ball.

And that then builds and attracts more mass until it builds into a moon or a planet or whatever.

Yeah.

What do you do when you encounter flat earth people?

Oh, man.

I just try to be quiet.

I just tell them, look, it's not my thing.

I remember a flat earth society offered me money years and years ago.

And I was like, no, I don't believe you're earth is flat.

I'm not getting involved with this.

And they really attack me hard, death threats and everything else.

They get very upset.

Yeah.

I do not understand.

I just think it's people committing to an idea.

Yeah.

It just doesn't make sense.

Well, it's a religion now.

They turn it into a religion.

Any time that people can attack you so brutally over that, I mean, you're talking, I'm on live talking about quantum physics and they're in the chat.

They've learned this flat.

They're, I mean, so that's...

That's like, I mean, one guy...

I'm fascinated by it because...

It's interesting.

Yeah, because it's the ultimate conspiracy theory.

Yeah.

The ultimate conspiracy theory is that we are all on a set and that the world...

The earth is flat.

It's a disc.

It's a wall.

The government's aware of it.

They won't let you pass a certain distance.

Yeah, there's ice walls.

Yeah.

And that space is just lights in the sky.

Right.

That's it.

And the sun is a bulb.

Yeah.

And all this kind of stuff.

It's wild.

And it's attached to a version of Christianity, which is very interesting.

It is.

It's tied into Christianity.

The 6 ,000 -year -old theme.

There was only 6 ,000 -year -old.

The reason why people think there are the 6 ,000 -year -olds because most of the tablets are 6 ,000 -year -olds.

And the Bible was written from the information they came from tablets.

So that's as far back as anybody's quote -unquote knowledge seems to extend.

That's where the 6 ,000 -year -old theory comes from.

But they've taken that thing and turned it into religion.

I remember one guy DM me and he was going off and telling me he was going to shoot me in the head and all this stuff.

And I said, let me ask you a question.

If there's no atmosphere, then what are you breathing right now?

He goes, what do you mean?

I'm breathing oxygen.

I said, well, that's a gas.

Gas doesn't exist.

I said, well, then you should be dead then.

Because you're breathing a gas.

What else are you inhaling when you breathe?

He goes oxygen.

I said, well, no, you're breathing in helium, krypton, oxygen.

Mostly nitrogen.

Yeah, nitrogen.

I said, you're breathing in all these other gases.

Oxygen is only about 21 % of that.

Otherwise, you'd be dead.

Yeah.

So he didn't know.

He couldn't to acid.

Did you graduate from high school?

He said, no, I stopped talking.

That's what I realized.

Don't waste your energy on these people.

Well, there's a lot of dudes, unfortunately, who just get on YouTube.

And they listen to very charismatic people talk that don't know what they're talking about, which I do all the time.

But they do the way where they pretend they know something is true that's not true.

And people get sucked into it.

I know.

And I just don't understand why you would think that Earth is the only one out of all these things that we've observed that's flat.

It just doesn't make any sense.

And I think this is respectfully to all these people that believe that.

I think it's a giant waste of time.

It is.

I think concentrating on the shape of the Earth, even if it was flat, who f*cking cares?

It means nothing.

Look at what's going on out there.

It would be kind of crazy if it was flat.

That would kind of like bolster the idea that we're the sh*t.

Right.

And we're just so much more powerful in advance and special than everything else in the universe.

Because we're the only ones that exist on a flat plane.

Right.

But the whole thing is just so insane.

Just what we know about the physical universe itself and about.

And just what we know about all the matter that exists in our lives is insane.

Yeah, it's insane.

I mean, obviously, they haven't tapped into it.

Even forget quantum.

They standard physics.

They don't comprehend it.

And so because of that, you know, they're lost.

I mean, satellites don't exist, obviously, to them.

That's a cookie one.

I remember Hurricane Maria.

It's a cookie one.

Bro, you can watch them.

It's crazy.

Hurricane Maria comes and destroys the Caribbean.

And unfortunately, I have some loved ones that were involved in that.

And I posted a picture of the hurricane because I was raising money for Hurricane supplies.

And they were commenting and attacking.

That's a fake image.

It doesn't exist.

I'm like, how many, let me ask you this.

How much of that is bullsh*t?

Like, how much of that is government?

Either entities from other foreign governments where they're jumping to these subjects to make people seem really stupid.

And when people say something really stupid, if they have one of the things they like to do is put a foreign flag.

Like American flag, rather, in their little process.

And they're just saying that dumb as sh*t.

And I'm going, I don't know if this is a real person.

I think it's not.

I think it's one of those things that's designed to muddy up any discourse about anything.

Yes, a siop.

I'm telling you, I told people a long time ago this whole flat earth thing was a CIA siop.

I think it was drop it in there and see where it is.

If it wasn't a CIA siop, it was someone from 4chan who just wanted to be silly.

And went so hard with explanations that a lot of gullible people without science degrees like me.

They went along with it.

And it's just one of those things where it's just man, what a giant waste of time.

It is.

It's a waste of energy.

And there's so much more we can learn like these ancient texts.

And people say, why you were focused on the ancient past?

Well, because the past is prologue.

If we don't understand what happened back then, we're doomed to continue to repeat these cycles of time that we've been in for quite some time for eons.

It can't mean it's just direct evidence that civilizations don't last when they go kooky.

Yes.

And on the things go sideways and there's natural disasters and wars that reshape landscapes like, look, it's all there.

And it's happening right now.

And if we're not aware of it, it'll happen us.

And then we'll be a footnote of history.

We'll be one of those things.

There was this amazing country called America.

They got crazy.

They created all this art and culture.

And they did amazing things that they went f*cking sideways.

They sold out.

The money they got involved in wars.

And then the next thing you know, the world is operating essentially like communist China, the whole world.

That's possible, two kids.

You got to fight for this.

Whatever this thing is that we have, this is like super f*cking unique.

But if you don't want to look at the past, if you're not fascinated by ancient structures, if you're not fascinated by what kind of technology and knowledge that they have, 4 ,500 plus years ago to make the barements.

Who are these people?

Exactly.

What were they doing?

How did they do that?

And what was that thing?

Was that a power plant?

Right.

I mean, if you, I know you know that theory.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

That is a crazy theory that sounds so, it sounds completely wackado.

But then when you have it laid out to Christopher, what's his last name?

Done.

Christopher Dunham on my podcast a few weeks ago.

I just had him a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, I just had a brain fart.

His depiction of the mechanisms that would be involved in turning this giant structure into some sort of a power plant, you hear about you, wait a minute.

Whoa.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

And him and I have very similar theories on how the power generation occurred.

And I believe that the Nile, you know, when it used to run up close to the pyramids and the water would run underneath the pyramid.

And that would create something called physiostatic electricity as it ran underneath that magnetized crystal granite.

Those ions would pour up into the chamber, move up the grand gallery where there used to be resonating rods.

You can see the slots where the rods used to be.

They're removed now, but the slots are still there.

Then it would be pushed into the king's chamber where it would be amplified and some type of fusion would take place, then forced up through the apex.

And then the crystal granite obelisk around the region would capture that ambient wireless electricity.

And then if you had something called a jet, which looks like a Tesla coil, you can capture that energy and you can transfer it into a device for gold electroplating for any of the electrical tools you need.

Like some of the tools they had to have used to create some of these incredible works of art.

We can see the tool marks, so we know they had the tools.

And but they had wireless electricity way back then.

That's insane.

That's true, that's insane.

Because you would think there would be some kind of physical evidence of a device.

Like something left over, some sort of, you know, ancient chainsaw.

Like something.

Yeah, they did a great job cleaning up.

I mean, they poured sand over Giza to bury another couple hundred pyramids there at Giza.

Do you think they poured sand?

Do you think that's just natural erosion over time?

Because when Giza, when the pyramids existed, it was a very different place, right?

Like if you go back before the pyramids, like 9 ,000 years ago, it was a lush rainforest.

And then over time, it became sand.

And the same with the entire Sahara Desert, which is really crazy.

We're talking about the other day, they find whale bones in the Sahara Desert.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to the value of the whales in a few weeks in Egypt, actually.

You know, it's incredible that there's whale bones out there also.

So we're going out there to the value of the whales.

Whale bones.

Whoa.

But so the point being that this place has changed radically, like absolutely radically over time.

So who knows what's, do you know why those things were covered up?

Is it possible that it was just sand over time?

Well, if you look at the tablets again, they talk about this war, right?

And this war that occurred, there's a lot of wars, obviously.

But this one particular war, it seems like the same one that damaged the area or the region of the Giza Plateau.

Also, Mohenjandara in the Indus Valley, up there by Pakistan.

And the reason why it's interesting is if you look at the war in the Texan and go to those areas, it looks now almost you can begin to see.

Oh, wait a minute.

It looks like war.

Mohenjandara in this valley, the buildings turned to glass.

The sand turned to glass and the bodies are still laying in the street right now today holding hands.

Never been scavenged by animals.

So, wait a minute.

Where is this?

Mohenjandara.

Are there photos that we can look at?

Oh, yeah.

Look it up.

Mohenjandara in this valley, dead bodies still laying in the street thousands of years later.

They just lay there, no one's covered them up.

No one's covered them up.

Yeah.

When you put a tiger counter over them, hire them background level radiation.

Really?

Yeah.

But aren't stones higher than background level radiators?

Some stones are.

Some stones are especially like diorite and crystal granite.

But these bodies, these are just bones.

How come they're higher than background level radiators?

Look, I can't wait to see this.

Why haven't I ever heard of this?

Mohenjandara.

There you go.

Wow.

Yeah.

This is evidence of a nuclear war or nuclear cycle war.

Go back to the other one.

That one there.

That one's insane.

Yeah.

There's bodies that are sitting on the edge of steps next to their own buildings that they lived in.

The building is turned to glass.

That's 3000 plus degree temperature weapons fire.

So there's a bunch of people that seem to die all at once, just scattered around.

Yeah.

And what's the conventional explanation for how these people died?

They have no idea.

They have zero idea.

The only thing that you can...

That was just a couple, Jamie.

Go to the other, there's the Mohenjandara, a mythical massacre.

Yeah.

So that they think it's a massacre?

Is there any...

Yeah.

Everybody's just laying there.

He's laying there.

And that building, those stones are vitrified, which means 3000 plus degree temperature.

Oh, sh*t.

What kind of...

You know, what could have caused that level of temperature, energetic release?

Well, it could have been a low atmosphere asteroid.

It could have been.

I mean, just like...

That's possible.

Tunguska.

Yeah, it could have been a...

But their bones would have been splattered apart and broken into pieces.

Good call.

Yeah, that's good call.

Yeah, because...

They don't seem to be broken apart.

No, they're not broken apart.

Right.

That impact would have shattered the bones and spread them out over...

Right.

But without impact, even if you just look at the one that burst in the atmosphere in Tunguska, it's just flattened trees.

Flattened everything.

Well, I think it's some insane, like a million acres or something crazy.

That's incredible.

So those bodies would be there?

The Tunguska explosion.

Yeah, so those bodies would be toast, because the trees were ripped apart.

And the buildings would have been flattened.

The legs would have flown off.

Right.

There's no way they would just be laying there like that.

Exactly.

That's interesting.

And they don't seem to be like chopped up.

No. Did they have any evidence of stab wounds or anything on them?

They don't have any evidence of any injury of any kind of attack or any cutting or like swords or anything.

They just all got cooked.

Right.

And then in the tablets, it says that the evil wind moved over to land after they released these weapons.

And then Anki goes to his father.

I mean, Anki goes to his father and he says, hey, can you stop the evil wind?

Because he had fallen in love with some people, you know, and down there.

And he's like, there's nothing I can do.

He said, getting your sky shipment for a boat.

That means get the hell out of here.

And he said that people's hair was falling out.

Their eyes were bleeding.

Their nose were bleeding.

Their fingernails were curling off.

That sounds like radiation sickness.

So do you think it's radiation sickness that did this to all these people or was it an impact that did this to all these people?

Nobody.

Nobody knows.

You know, but they're not blown apart.

Right.

They're not blown apart.

It seems like wherever, wherever, whatever struck or whatever energetic weapon it was, it could have been not, it might not have been a weapon.

And whatever it was, it seems like that shockwave reached them at some point and whatever was in that wave just killed everybody.

That's what it did.

Yeah.

And they just don't know what it is.

So how does a conventional archaeologist describe it?

They just say it's a massacre.

They just call it a mythical massacre and they stay away from it.

When you look in the other text, the Mahabharata and the Bhagita, you find out about these wars also.

They're recorded.

They have weapons called the Brahma Astra and the Brahma Honda weapon.

And these weapons, they do what they describe them as doing, duplicate what you saw there.

How do they describe them?

They describe them as weapons that once released can't be revolted or can't be turned back and that they will obliterate any area, any city.

And they say that some of the one or the weapons can destroy any man on three worlds.

It's crazy stuff.

This is where Oppenheimer got his famous quote when he obviously tested the nuke, right?

Now I have become death destroyer of worlds.

He got that from the Mahabharata.

Yeah.

What a great quote.

Yeah.

To say you have to detonate the first name of the Mahabharata and what a great quote.

Yeah.

So the idea is that there were beings that were having wars on this planet, do you believe they were having wars with people that were revolting or were they having wars with other beings?

They were fighting with each other.

And epinus of these wars can be found in the book of Deuteronomy in the modern day Bible.

These gods, and they do mean gods with an S because everywhere in the Bible verse is God's singular.

It's actually a mis -translation.

The actual, a few backwards look up the translation in Arabic and down to Arabic and everything else you find out that it's God's plural.

They were fighting each other over resources and people and control that or planet.

And so that's why in the book of Deuteronomy God tells people, go to this city and it's like a far city way.

They don't even know that these people exist.

They go over there to kill.

And he says, kill the women, kill the children and bring the spoils of war back to me.

And you see these wars in the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, the Bible, the Samaritan Tabas.

And these wars are just non -Sahab, the Indian Vedas.

And it's always about attacking another city and even talk about Trojan horse methods to get behind the gates and then to utilize that to attack and kill and bring back these spoils, which is pretty crazy stuff.

It's like they were attacking each other.

They had gone awry.

They had gone rogue out here on this planet and then began to fight over people and populations and resources.

And we would hope that we would get past that.

But there's no evidence that we have so far.

So like, why would we think that as AI gets implemented and technology escalates and all we're going to be able to do in the future in terms of being able to go visit other planets and duke it out on other planets.

Like there was a whole story today about China just landed on the far side of the moon.

So they landed a probe over there.

Yeah, yeah.

I did.

It's just, you know, the China America war on the moon, like what if America claims a spot in China lands and plants a flag there and they're like, hey, f*ck you, that's ours.

Now, that's what happened.

Especially if there's like something on the moon they can mine.

It's very valuable.

Oh, this stuff up there.

I researched the Clementine mission years ago.

NASA and United States military sent a military at that time.

It was a top secret mission called Clementine.

It was a low lunar orbiting satellite to go to the dark side of the moon.

And when I saw the name Clementine, I knew right away this thing ain't coming back.

And as I began to dig deeper into the declassified documents, of course, it never came back to all my dog.

Oh, my dog.

Oh, my dog in Clementine.

You were lost.

I'm gone forever.

Wow.

And I was right.

And sure enough, it hits something on the dark side of the moon, which is really just the back side.

It's not really dark there.

But it hits something and but it sent the back sent back about 20 gigs of data.

And these images are available to the general public.

They've been declassified.

And there are strange anomalies on those image.

This is pre -photo shot, pre -everything.

Things that shouldn't be there that look like broken structures and junk and things that just seem to be laying around.

So I think it was a reconnaissance mission together until and data, which is probably why China's gone to the to that far side of the moon as well, because they're probably going to it's the race to see who can correct capture ancient technology and then reverse engineer it and then weaponize it.

Well, that's the most fun theory ever.

The most fun theory ever is that there's bases on the moon and the dark side of the moon that aliens of abandoned.

Jamie, is there any photos of these anomalies?

That's the most fun thing.

I can provide you some with links to the sources too.

Okay.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

But Jamie will probably find something cool.

So what do these structures look like to you when you look at them?

Just dome structures there.

Like a dome.

Just domes.

And in fact, one of the astronauts, I think it was Neil Armstrong.

If you get the declassified from the Freedom of Information Act documents that are the black box audio and the black box redacted text statement from NASA, which is available to the general public, Neil says, look at those convex structures down there.

I bet that people in there never get out.

And he's talking about dome structures on the moon.

And this is an exact statement that was made that's in the black box audio, which I can provide you to link to that as well.

Okay.

So where are these structures?

Do you see any of these that you find good enough for anomalies on the backside of the moon?

We have, we utilize a lot of these on our Facebook groups on Facebook.

We have these groups, anomaly hunting groups.

We formed the United Family of Anomaly Hunters and we've cataloged about 60 ,000 anomalies now.

A lot of them are on the dark side of the moon.

But to your type in Clementine moon photos anomaly, you may be able to find some.

If not, I'll send you the link to some resources where you can look them up and you can take a look at some of these crazy objects that are there.

So is that one right there in the upper right hand corner?

Yeah, that one's there is some structure.

Those kind of look like two pyramids on to the left of it.

And then another structure, which almost seems like has geometry underneath that, you see the blur, that looks like obfuscation directly, you know, if you go back to that top right, top right, yeah, top right, B, okay.

You see that where his hand is?

I move to the left going down slowly.

See that?

Go back up again.

What is hand is over right now?

It looks like obfuscation.

Sometimes you can take these images and put them into a Photoshop and take away the contrast and all of a sudden structures pop right out.

But right above that, you see those shadows of those pyramid structures?

Right above that.

Yeah, you see those pyramids?

See that you can see this dark shadow.

I see two lines.

Okay.

Well, I see the arrow that's pointing to that one straight line and then I see what looks like two superimposed arrows.

Okay.

Do you see?

Yeah, those things.

Okay.

Yeah.

Those are superimposed, right?

No. Those are shadows.

But look, there's the same things that are in the bottom.

Are they just pointing at something?

Aren't those pointers?

I think they're high.

They may be highlighting something.

Right.

I think it's a cursor mark or something.

So what they're saying, I see what they're pointing to.

They're pointing to that thing in the operating corner.

You see it kind of looks like a pyramid.

Yeah, you see that?

You see that right there?

Yeah.

It kind of looks like a pyramid.

It's cleaned up a little bit there and see.

See is more clean.

But those structures, those things don't look like they belong there.

Well, it's hard to tell.

Yeah, it's hard to tell.

But now we have really, that pyramid right there is very famous.

That's a very cool image.

That's on the moon.

There should be a link to that.

There's a lot of that particular one's been around for years and years and years.

It's kind of hard to think that they were formed by natural.

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